Naked Get Wasted A.V. Dub/Bass Reworx at SoundCloud!

[Adammatic]

Hey NVRaves! just made two new tracks called, "Naked Get Wasted" and "Yolalogic." Now available is the Anti Vocal Dub/Bass Reworx of Naked Get Wasted. let me know which you like better!  check them out!  Enjoy!

www.soundcloud.com/adammatic

Adam

[psilogod]

i would have liked Naked Get Wasted without the vocals. .. just kind of ruined the otherwise good song.

Yolalogic was pretty cool...had a nice grooving vibe with driving beats and bass. Very technoey... you keep getting better and better.

[ohshititsthemantis]

I agree. I liked both tracks

But the vocals on naked.. not so much.

[Adammatic]

hmmm.  ok ill try taking out the main vocals but leave the little parts/vocals in and see what it sounds like...

[psilogod]

hmmm.  ok ill try taking out the main vocals but leave the little parts/vocals in and see what it sounds like...

it's not to say other people won't like those types of vocals, I'm sure they would. It's just personal preference...do what you enjoy hearing.

[CRiSiS]

Pretty cool tracks Adam.

[Adammatic]

it's not to say other people won't like those types of vocals, I'm sure they would. It's just personal preference...do what you enjoy hearing.

personally i like the vocals but it sounds good without the main vocals.  ill be posting the Anti Vocal Remix sometime tonight.  you guys let me know.  ill have both versions available so that there is a good taste for both types of listeners.  thanks Kevin! call me up!

Adam

[Adammatic]

Pretty cool tracks Adam.

thank you man! ill have the Anti Vocal Remix out tonight.

[Adammatic]

alright.  the anti vocal remix is up!

enjoy,

Adam

[Adammatic]

ok so i remixed it again.  i added a different kick, added some other wobbly fillers and did some other sound adjusting.  sounds a lot better now.  let me know what you think.  thanks!

Adam

[CTRL-ALT-DELETE]

Nice!!! 

[Adammatic]

Thanks man!

[Adammatic]

Any other feedback before I move on to the next track?

Adam

[Shopping Mall Death Metal]

Keep making tracks like this. You've come a long way from all of that older stuff you posted.

[Chilled Out Entertainer]

Any other feedback before I move on to the next track?

Adam

I hear/play alot of crossover stuff from dudes who've been in the game much longer.  This isn't too far off, keep it up.   

[Adammatic]

I hear/play alot of crossover stuff from dudes who've been in the game much longer.  This isn't too far off, keep it up.   

thank you!  Ive only been making music seriously for about 11 months now so thank you very much! i have to thank Kevin for helping me out with all my questions.  i just need to figure out now how to make that deep driving techno bassline and kick.  i know that sidechain compression has a lot to do with it and in know how to do it but i feel like im missing something. 

[Shopping Mall Death Metal]

Sometimes if I want a really deep kick, I layer two different kick drums until I get what I want. Works the same for a snappier snare.

[Chilled Out Entertainer]

thank you!  Ive only been making music seriously for about 11 months now so thank you very much! i have to thank Kevin for helping me out with all my questions.  i just need to figure out now how to make that deep driving techno bassline and kick.  i know that sidechain compression has a lot to do with it and in know how to do it but i feel like im missing something. 

Just stay on your grind brother and use the internet.  There are a lot of producers  in your position out there and they like to post on internet forums.  Find the forums and get the tips.   My homie White Girl Lust runs a real cool blog for his label that has lots of production tips. Check it:

http://solidbump.com/

And seems like for kicks, compression is key.

[Adammatic]

Sometimes if I want a really deep kick, I layer two different kick drums until I get what I want. Works the same for a snappier snare.

ok cool ill try it.  Ive tried it before but they just cancelled eachother out.  What Im really looking for is the driving bassline.  I still have some ideas im going to try out but anything will help.  download or listen to my new mix i just released and feel the thick basslines all throughout the mix.  its a good mix.

[Adammatic]

Just stay on your grind brother and use the internet.  There are a lot of producers  in your position out there and they like to post on internet forums.  Find the forums and get the tips.   My homie White Girl Lust runs a real cool blog for his label that has lots of production tips. Check it:

http://solidbump.com/

And seems like for kicks, compression is key.

ok for sure!

[Shopping Mall Death Metal]

As far as deep or driving basslines go, try layering a midrange bass with a sub bass at the same time. For a good sub bass use a simple sine wave at a low pitch, and choose whatever midrange bass works for you.


Sometimes it takes me days to even find the right sound, I still have 5423409732143210 unfinished tracks because I can't find the sound I like.

[CRiSiS]

Compression is key for getting the kick to have a nice even sound. But it will not add frequencies which are not already present. It just helps make the kick a more consistent tone. It also can add some snap to the attack if used right.

Starting with the proper kick in the first place is key. NEVER layer sounds which sit in the same frequency range. As you stated, it only serves to cancel each other or create phasing issues. The only time you should be layering kicks is if you love the low end of your kick but feel it needs more snap, or the other way around... You like the snap a kick has but want more low end. If and when you do layer the kicks, make sure you eq them properly at the crossover point you decide so none of the frequencies overlap. I usually cut over at 150 or 200 depending on the kick. Sometimes I go as low as 90 or 100 though. All of your sub will come from around 60 and below. The real power of a kick though is between 80-100. Alot of house music has kicks that peak all the way into the 150 range. Alot of people will use a kick that peaks between 80-150, then layer a higher kick which they use an eq to accentuate around 6 Khz for snap and bringing the kick forward in the mix, depending on the kick obviously. You will want to compress your low kick different from your hi kick, then you will want to apply even different compression to the both so they sound like one sound and not two seperate sounds. You also want to make sure that you scoop out some of the material in the middle if it is present, to make room for your other sounds as well as removing any "boxiness" to the sound. The boxiness usually sits between 300-500 hz.

Of course I am talking about subtle compression and eq here, nothing extreme. You would be surprised how little is actually needed to make a difference. Another thing about getting your kick, bass, and drums in general to sound phat and pounding is proper gain structure. You want to process your individual sounds first and have them sound nice and even. You then want to setup a bus channel for all like sounds and process that. The processing on the individual sounds should be to get them to sound even, not to make them as loud as possible. The bus mixes is where you want to introduce volume.

As for basses, layering is key. Similar to the kick, the sub will come from 60 hz and below. Warmth comes from 100-250hz range though... so you will want a sound which has your sub content and a sound which has your warmth. A sine wave works good for this, but sometimes a triangle with some filtering is even better as it has higher order harmonics in it which add warmth. It's common to use a triangle and hi-cut it from like 150-100 depending on the mid bass content. You will also want a mid bass sound which gives more warmth and depth to the bass sound. And I always put a higher layer because the music I write centers around the bass and it plays the lead most times... so I want to maintain interest and I do this with the higher layer from like 1 Khz on. I will process the shit out of it with distortion and guitar amp plugins, and then chop it up and make a rhythmically interesting texture that sits on top of the other two layers. I am then free to automate stuff on the high bass without taking away from the mid and sub... things like filtering, delay, and modulation fx come to mind... EQing everything obviously so no frequencies collide. Then using proper gain structure so that all parts gel and create one powerful bass...

Sidechaining will help seperate the kick and the bass so everything is not one big horrible messy blob. It basically ducks the bass out when the kick hits, and then the bass comes swelling back in. There are other ways to keep the two from conflicting like EQing or timing, in other words make sure the kick and bass never play at the same time. Like classic house style where the kick is on the downbeat and the bass notes are on the up beat...

Hope this helps in your quest for phat bass and pounding kicks. Not sure how much of this applies to your style, as this is geared towards bass driven music.

[Shopping Mall Death Metal]

When I layer kicks I use one kick that's deep and heavy, and one lighter kick. It makes the sound a little fuller.

[Adammatic]

Thank you Crisis. I will definately print out what you said and fool around with the idea. Looks like I'm on to the next track! See you guys soon! Thank you much!

[Wubber Stumpper]

Really diggin the Dub Rework version, b!g up.

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